{"id":13904,"date":"2024-12-28T14:41:01","date_gmt":"2024-12-28T21:41:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb\/other-tricks-of-the-trade-with-s-corps\/"},"modified":"2026-01-26T17:10:04","modified_gmt":"2026-01-26T17:10:04","slug":"other-tricks-of-the-trade-with-s-corps","status":"publish","type":"epkb_post_type_1","link":"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb\/other-tricks-of-the-trade-with-s-corps\/","title":{"rendered":"Other Tricks of the Trade with S Corps"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_85 ez-toc-wrap-right counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-grey ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<div class=\"ez-toc-title-container\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table Of Contents<\/p>\n<span class=\"ez-toc-title-toggle\"><\/span><\/div>\n<nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-3' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb\/other-tricks-of-the-trade-with-s-corps\/#A_Shareholder_Who_Has_Other_W-2_Income\" >A Shareholder Who Has Other W-2 Income<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb\/other-tricks-of-the-trade-with-s-corps\/#Husband_and_Wife_Team_with_High_Income\" >Husband and Wife Team with High Income<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb\/other-tricks-of-the-trade-with-s-corps\/#Put_Your_Kids_on_the_Payroll\" >Put Your Kids on the Payroll<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb\/other-tricks-of-the-trade-with-s-corps\/#Family_Management_LLC\" >Family Management LLC<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-5\" href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb\/other-tricks-of-the-trade-with-s-corps\/#Income_Splitting_as_Gift\" >Income Splitting as Gift<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-6\" href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb\/other-tricks-of-the-trade-with-s-corps\/#Taxpayers_Comprehensive_Guide_to_LLCs_and_S_Corps_2025_Edition\" >Taxpayer\u2019s Comprehensive Guide to LLCs and S Corps 2025 Edition<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-7\" href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb\/other-tricks-of-the-trade-with-s-corps\/#Talk_to_a_Small_Business_CPA_About_Your_Situation\" >Talk to a Small Business CPA About Your Situation<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-8\" href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb\/other-tricks-of-the-trade-with-s-corps\/#Schedule_Discovery_Meeting_Now\" >Schedule Discovery Meeting Now<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<div class=\"wpb-content-wrapper\"><p>[vc_row][vc_column][vc_column_text css=&#8221;&#8221; woodmart_inline=&#8221;no&#8221; text_larger=&#8221;no&#8221;]<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-31185 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/015235_533470666_s_corp_tricks_300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/>By <strong>Jason Watson, CPA<\/strong><br \/>\nPosted Sunday, December 29, 2024<\/p>\n<p>The big theme with S Corps is payroll for shareholders, and what constitutes a reasonable salary. Here are some tricks that you can consider to help reduce, lower or avoid self-employment tax, or Social Security and Medicare tax burdens-<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"A_Shareholder_Who_Has_Other_W-2_Income\"><\/span>A Shareholder Who Has Other W-2 Income<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>If you have other W-2 income then you are that much closer to reaching your Social Security wage limit. This in itself is not a trick. But, if you have a business partner who doesn\u2019t have W-2 income, then you can lop side the salary to the shareholder who does. This is especially helpful with a husband and wife team since office politics won\u2019t get in the way. For example, the wife has another job and earns $120,000. Her S Corp salary may be much higher than the husband\u2019s since she is closer to the Social Security cap (which is $176,100 for the 2025 tax year).<\/p>\n<p>Huh? Let\u2019s say the S corporation had to pay out $70,000 in shareholder wages. The employer portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes are a sunk cost regardless of who is paid. However, if the spouse with outside income is paid and he or she exceeds the Social Security limit for the employee\u2019s portion of Social Security taxes, that overage is refunded to the taxpayer.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, salaries must be commensurate with each shareholder\u2019s skill level, hours worked, value to the business, etc. but there is some grey area to work with.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Husband_and_Wife_Team_with_High_Income\"><\/span>Husband and Wife Team with High Income<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Let\u2019s say a husband and wife couple work in the IT field, and combined they earn $600,000. The S Corp could have just one shareholder, let\u2019s say the wife, and the husband is merely a volunteer employee. The wife\u2019s salary could be higher than the husband\u2019s since she is running the business and is the only shareholder. She would reach the Social Security cap much sooner, but this only works if the husband\u2019s salary can remain below the cap.<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s illustrate this further-<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Option A- Pay husband and wife $120,000 each for a total of $240,000. All $240,000 would be subjected to Social Security and Medicare taxes.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Option B- Pay wife $200,000 and husband $40,000. Only $176,100 (for the 2025 tax year) plus $40,000 for total of $216,100 would be subjected to Social Security and Medicare taxes. This $31,400 difference in income subject to Social Security and Medicare taxes between Option A and Option B equates to about $4,800 in cash in your pocket savings.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Again, salaries must be commensurate for the work performed. A cool thing about making the wife the sole shareholder is that the business could gain benefits from being minority owned or considered \u201cdisadvantaged\u201d although those benefits are becoming rarer.<\/p>\n<p>Be mindful of the possible reduction in future Social Security benefits from a smaller salary.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Put_Your_Kids_on_the_Payroll\"><\/span>Put Your Kids on the Payroll<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>You can also reduce the business\u2019s overall profits by paying your children to work at the office and paying them a wage. You already have to perform payroll, so you can simply add them to the list. See earlier sections of this chapter and our chapter on fringe benefits and tax deductions for expanded information about putting your kids on the payroll.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Family_Management_LLC\"><\/span>Family Management LLC<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Similar to above, however, the S Corp pays a management fee to another LLC that is reported on Schedule C of Form 1040 (not an S Corp). Since this garden-variety LLC is not an S Corp, Social Security and Medicare taxes do not have to be paid on wages to children. $9,800 must be paid to the child(ren) to break-even on the costs. IRS risk is moderate since the business connection between the S Corp and the Family Management LLC might not be arms-length or in good faith.<\/p>\n<p>You can also read our Reducing Taxes summary article here-<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/6177\">wcginc.com\/6177<\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Income_Splitting_as_Gift\"><\/span>Income Splitting as Gift<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>You can make someone in a lower tax bracket a shareholder in your S Corp to give them money. For example, you are taking care of your Mom and need to give her $10,000 each year to help with expenses. You would need to earn $13,000 or more just to be able to write a check for $10,000. However, if your Mom is in a lower tax bracket, as a shareholder she would pay fewer taxes to pocket the $10,000. And when your Mom eventually passes, her ownership can transfer back to you.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, you could justify not paying Mom a reasonable salary since she is not performing any work for the business. She is simply an investor. However, just like paying your children to work for you, there might be a tax savings by having Mom work- her marginal tax rate could be dramatically lower than yours. Good luck with the \u201cHey Mom. Want a job?\u201d conversation. What goes around comes around.<\/p>\n<p>Just remember, putting family members on payroll is heavily scrutinized. Make sure the basics such as job descriptions, pay rates, time records, etc. are all in very good order. 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