{"id":1527,"date":"2022-07-03T12:23:06","date_gmt":"2022-07-03T12:23:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/?p=1527"},"modified":"2026-01-26T16:36:41","modified_gmt":"2026-01-26T16:36:41","slug":"roth-401k","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/blog\/roth-401k\/","title":{"rendered":"Roth 401k Versus Traditional 401k"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wpb-content-wrapper\"><p>[vc_row][vc_column]\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t<div id=\"wd-68b5731dec08b\" class=\" wd-rs-68b5731dec08b wd-info-box wd-wpb text-left box-icon-align-top box-style- color-scheme- wd-bg-none border-btm-title \">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-content\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-inner reset-last-child\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"overview\">\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Key_Takeaways\"><\/span>Key Takeaways<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><b>Roth 401k vs. Traditional 401k:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Roth 401k contributions are post-tax, have higher limits, and no income phaseouts, unlike Roth IRAs.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><b>Contribution limits:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> In 2022, you can contribute $20,500 to a Roth 401k plus $6,500 if 50 or older. Traditional 401k limits are the same, but contributions are pre-tax.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><b>Wealth-building perspective:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> After-tax (Roth) contributions often build more wealth long-term than pre-tax contributions because taxes are paid upfront.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><b>IRS \u201cfree loan\u201d concept:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Pre-tax contributions reduce current taxes, letting you invest the saved taxes now, but the impact may be modest over time.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><b>State tax strategies:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Pre-tax contributions can reduce state income taxes now; some retirees may relocate to tax-friendly states later.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><b>RMD considerations:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Roth 401k withdrawals are generally tax-free, and 401k RMDs can be delayed if still working and owning \u22645% of the company.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><b>Recommendation for company employees:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Split contributions 50\/50 between Roth and pre-tax to balance tax-free growth and tax deferral.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><b>Recommendation for self-employed:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Maximize Roth contributions, plus a discretionary pre-tax company contribution to leverage tax deferral benefits.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Financial planning:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Always defer to your financial advisor for personalized strategy and ensure alignment with long-term wealth goals.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>\n<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t<div id=\"wd-6731ed3a633b6\" class=\" wd-rs-6731ed3a633b6 wd-info-box wd-wpb text-left box-icon-align-top box-style- color-scheme- wd-bg-none border-btm-title img-right \">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-content\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-inner reset-last-child\"><p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26085\" src=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Roth-401k-1-1.webp\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/>Summer is tax planning time and we get a lot of questions about solo 401k contributions, and whether they should be Roth 401k contributions or traditional (pre-tax) 401k contributions. Our general answer is Roth for a few reasons.<\/p>\n<p>Before we get into that, let\u2019s review a couple of things. First, when we say Roth 401k we are not talking about Roth IRAs. We truly are talking about a post-tax contribution to a 401k plan. 401k plans and IRAs are totally different.<\/p>\n<p>Next, unlike a Roth IRA, a Roth 401k does not have income limits. So, while you might be phased out based on income from a Roth IRA (modified adjusted gross income cannot exceed $214,000 for the 2022 tax year), you can make a zillion dollars and contribute to a Roth 401k.<\/p>\n<p>Wait, there\u2019s more! You can contribute $20,500 for the 2022 tax year into a Roth 401k plus another $6,500 if you are 50 or older. This is in stark contrast to a Roth IRA which is $6,000 + $1,000.<br \/>\nMost 401k plans, both solo 401k plans and full-blown big-biz 401k plans, have two \u201caccounts.\u201d One for pre-tax or traditional 401k contributions, and another for Roth 401k contributions.<\/p>\n<p>Quick recap- Roth 401k contributions have higher limits and do not have any income phaseouts. Let\u2019s not forget about tax-free growth.<\/p>\n<p>So\u2026 Roth or pre-tax\u2026 which do you use?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<style><\/style>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t<div id=\"wd-6731edb5e4c05\" class=\" wd-rs-6731edb5e4c05 wd-info-box wd-wpb text-left box-icon-align-top box-style- color-scheme- wd-bg-none border-btm-title \">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-content\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"info-box-title title wd-font-weight-800 box-title-style-default font-primary wd-fontsize-m\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"401k_Plan_Theory\"><\/span>401k Plan Theory<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-inner reset-last-child\"><p>Two arguments abound when considering a pre-tax 401k contribution. The argument goes like this- your retirement tax rate will be lower than your wage-earning tax rate. For those in the 32%, 35% or 37% marginal tax brackets, this is likely true. However, those earning big bucks probably continue to earn big bucks during retirement from investments, real estate, consulting, etc.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26084\" src=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Roth-401k2.webp\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/>The other argument is about the free loan from the IRS. If you contribute $27,000 to your pre-tax 401k and you are in the 32% marginal tax bracket, you just put $8,640 in your pocket ($27,000 x 32%). Sure, at some point the IRS wants it back when you withdraw it during retirement, and will tax the original contribution plus whatever you earned on it. But this falls into the let\u2019s worry about next time, next time category.<\/p>\n<p>As such, the second argument is about using the IRS\u2019s money to build additional wealth. You take your $8,640 and do something good with it. Yeah, this sort of works. $8,640 annually might not move the needles much on your wealth building strategies. You would need $8,640 x 15 years at 6% rate of return just to afford a down payment on an average rental property.<\/p>\n<p>Rather, most wealth is built with after-tax dollars. The leveraging of the IRS free loan concept sounds great on paper until you gain perspective on the size of the lever.<\/p>\n<p>Another side argument is completely avoiding state income taxes by reducing your state income and therefore income tax with 401k contributions during your wage-earning years, and then establish residency in a tax-free or a tax-friendly state during retirement. We talk about this in our\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/tax-support\/reducing-taxes\/\">tax reduction strategies<\/a>\u00a0blog post.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<style><\/style>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t<div id=\"wd-6731ece4920be\" class=\" wd-rs-6731ece4920be wd-info-box wd-wpb text-left box-icon-align-top box-style- color-scheme- wd-bg-none border-btm-title \">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-content\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"info-box-title title wd-font-weight-800 box-title-style-default font-primary wd-fontsize-m\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Other_Considerations\"><\/span>Other Considerations<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-inner reset-last-child\"><p>The theories above make sense; however, we ask a basic question- is it easier to pay taxes during your wage-earning years or during retirement? Sure, it depends how much you withdraw during retirement. Please consider that to spend $150,000 during retirement, you might have to withdraw upwards of $180,000 to account for the income taxes.<\/p>\n<p>During your wage-earning years you might have the ability work a little harder to pay for taxes now. Pick up an extra shift. Close an extra deal. Get a few more tax returns out of the door if you are a tax accountant. Whatever it takes, right? During your retirement years, especially mid-70s or older, you pay taxes with retirement savings (or at least it feels like you do depending on your cash sources).<\/p>\n<p>Also, keep in mind that your primary objective in life is to build wealth. Your second objective is to save taxes, and what a lot of people forget about is saving taxes is not done in a vacuum or just one year; it is done over your entire lifetime.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s another angle to consider- you can delay required minimum distributions (RMDs) with a 401k plan. At the age of 72, you must start withdrawing money from IRAs and \u201cremnant\u201d 401k plans. However, there is a special rule for 401k plans-<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>If you are still working, and<\/li>\n<li>Own 5% or less of the company you work for, and<\/li>\n<li>The 401k plan is with the company you work for<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>You can delay RMDs. So, you could roll all your retirement accounts into a 401k plan at Wal-Mart, hand out carts and avoid having to take required minimum distributions. This gets tricky when you are self-employed since you would need to substantially work for another company and have your retirement money in their 401k plan (and now have a boss).<\/p>\n<p>Then again, if you have mostly Roth 401k contributions, you don\u2019t really care about avoiding RMDs since this is generally tax-free withdrawals. Keep reading!<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<style><\/style>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t<div id=\"wd-6890de8cdc49d\" class=\" wd-rs-6890de8cdc49d wd-info-box wd-wpb text-left box-icon-align-top box-style- color-scheme- wd-bg-none border-btm-title img-right \">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-content\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"info-box-title title wd-font-weight-800 box-title-style-default font-primary wd-fontsize-m\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Recommendation\"><\/span>Recommendation<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-inner reset-last-child\"><p>Our first recommendation is to always defer to your financial advisor. He or she might have strong opinions one way or another, and are also in charge of your financial plan<\/p>\n<p>But if you want our opinion, then here it is-<\/p>\n<p>If you are working for a company with decent matching, then split your 401k contributions 50%-50% between Roth and pre-tax.<\/p>\n<p>If you are self-employed, then put 100% of your contributions into the Roth component of your 401k plan, and then another 25% of your salary into the pre-tax component as a discretionary company contribution (sometimes loosely referred to as a profit-sharing contribution).<\/p>\n<p>For example, if you are a business owner paying yourself $60,000 in salary, you could contribute $20,500 into your Roth 401k and another $15,000 ($60,000 x 25%) into the pre-tax 401k for a total of $35,500.<\/p>\n<p>This is a nice way to get the best of both worlds. Pay taxes now, and enjoy tax-free growth on one hand. And on the other hand, get some tax deferrals. Win win!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sidebar-<\/strong>\u00a0a lot of financial advisors do not like 401k plans because they cannot earn a fee from managing those assets. If they are worth their salt, they will find a way to charge a flat fee or an hourly fee, and you\u2019ll be happy to pay it for sound advice.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<style><\/style>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t<div id=\"wd-68b57342771e5\" class=\" wd-rs-68b57342771e5 wd-info-box wd-wpb text-left box-icon-align-top box-style- color-scheme- wd-bg-none border-btm-title faqs-wrap \">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-content\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"info-box-title title box-title-style-default wd-fontsize-m\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Frequently_Asked_Questions\"><\/span>Frequently Asked Questions<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-inner reset-last-child\"><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"What_is_a_Roth_401k\"><\/span>What is a Roth 401k?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>A post-tax 401k contribution allowing tax-free growth and withdrawals in retirement.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"How_is_a_Roth_401k_different_from_a_Roth_IRA\"><\/span>How is a Roth 401k different from a Roth IRA?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Roth 401ks have no income limits and higher contribution limits; Roth IRAs are restricted by income and lower limits.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"How_much_can_I_contribute_to_a_Roth_401k\"><\/span>How much can I contribute to a Roth 401k?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>$20,500 for 2022, plus $6,500 catch-up if 50 or older. Limits may change annually.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Should_I_choose_Roth_or_traditional_401k_contributions\"><\/span>Should I choose Roth or traditional 401k contributions?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Roth is generally preferred for long-term wealth-building, but a mix can balance tax-free growth and current tax deferral.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Can_Roth_401k_contributions_avoid_RMDs\"><\/span>Can Roth 401k contributions avoid RMDs?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Roth 401k withdrawals are tax-free, and RMDs can be delayed under certain employment conditions.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"What_is_the_%E2%80%9Cfree_loan%E2%80%9D_concept\"><\/span>What is the \u201cfree loan\u201d concept?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Using pre-tax contributions reduces current taxes, letting you invest the saved taxes now, but taxes are due upon withdrawal.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"How_does_being_self-employed_affect_401k_contributions\"><\/span>How does being self-employed affect 401k contributions?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Self-employed individuals can maximize Roth contributions and also make discretionary pre-tax contributions.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Why_split_contributions_between_Roth_and_pre-tax\"><\/span>Why split contributions between Roth and pre-tax?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>It balances tax-free growth with tax deferral, providing flexibility in retirement.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Should_I_consult_a_financial_advisor\"><\/span>Should I consult a financial advisor?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Yes, always align contributions with your overall financial plan and long-term wealth goals.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Do_Roth_401k_contributions_have_income_limits\"><\/span>Do Roth 401k contributions have income limits?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>No, unlike Roth IRAs, anyone can contribute regardless of income level.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t[\/vc_column][\/vc_row]<\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[vc_row][vc_column][\/vc_column][\/vc_row]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":44357,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[17],"tags":[18,230,233],"class_list":["post-1527","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-blog","tag-tax-planning","tag-s-corps","tag-general-business"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v27.8 (Yoast SEO v27.8) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Roth 401k Versus Traditional 401k - WCG CPAs &amp; Advisors<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Summer is tax planning time and we get questions about Roth 401k contributions versus pre-tax. 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