{"id":51388,"date":"2025-08-31T08:35:09","date_gmt":"2025-08-31T08:35:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/?post_type=epkb_post_type_3&#038;p=51388"},"modified":"2026-01-27T08:20:34","modified_gmt":"2026-01-27T08:20:34","slug":"what-time-counts-for-material-participation-2","status":"publish","type":"epkb_post_type_3","link":"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb-rental-property\/material-participation-time-examples\/","title":{"rendered":"Material Participation Time Examples"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_85 ez-toc-wrap-right counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-grey ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<div class=\"ez-toc-title-container\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table Of Contents<\/p>\n<span class=\"ez-toc-title-toggle\"><\/span><\/div>\n<nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb-rental-property\/material-participation-time-examples\/#Things_That_Count_Towards_Material_Participation\" >Things That Count Towards Material Participation<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb-rental-property\/material-participation-time-examples\/#Things_That_Dont_Count\" >Things That Don\u2019t Count<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb-rental-property\/material-participation-time-examples\/#I_Just_Got_A_Rental_What_Do_I_Do_2026_Edition\" >I Just Got A Rental, What Do I Do? 2026 Edition<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb-rental-property\/material-participation-time-examples\/#Rental_Expert_Pod_the_REP\" >Rental Expert Pod (the REP)<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-5\" href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb-rental-property\/material-participation-time-examples\/#Talk_to_a_Real_Estate_CPA_About_Your_Rental_Property\" >Talk to a Real Estate CPA About Your Rental Property<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-6\" href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kb-rental-property\/material-participation-time-examples\/#Schedule_Discovery_Meeting_Now\" >Schedule Discovery Meeting Now<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<div class=\"wpb-content-wrapper\"><p>[vc_row][vc_column][vc_column_text css=&#8221;&#8221; woodmart_inline=&#8221;no&#8221; text_larger=&#8221;no&#8221;]<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-51392 size-full\" title=\"Material Participation Time Examples\" src=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/051388_2442962431_material_participation_examples_300.jpg\" alt=\"Material Participation Time Examples\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/>By <strong>Jason Watson, CPA<\/strong><br \/>\nPosted Sunday, August 31, 2025<\/p>\n<p>Here is a big list of tasks and efforts that count towards material participation and an equally big list that do not count. Sure, some of this is redundant since defining what time you cannot count towards material participation is easily converted into what you can count with a flip of some words, but you\u2019ll get the idea.<\/p>\n<p>Also, before we get into the big lists, keep in mind two things- improper corroboration and inadequate record keeping are the downfalls to most taxpayer arguments, and second, don\u2019t stop counting hours once you hit your 500- or 100-hour marks (depending on which test you are shooting for).<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Things_That_Count_Towards_Material_Participation\"><\/span>Things That Count Towards Material Participation<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>As promised, here is a decent-sized list of things that count towards material participation hours-<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Collecting rent from tenants or guests<\/li>\n<li>Advertising rental property for lease<\/li>\n<li>Screening tenant or guest applications<\/li>\n<li>Negotiating and executing lease or rental agreements<\/li>\n<li>Directly managing or supervising repair contractors (this one is tricky)<\/li>\n<li>Performing repairs yourself<\/li>\n<li>Procuring and reviewing hazard insurance<\/li>\n<li>Bookkeeping for the rental property (but not reviewing financial statements, subtle)<\/li>\n<li>Decorating\/staging the rental property<\/li>\n<li>Conducting safety inspections (but let\u2019s not get carried away)<\/li>\n<li>Renovating an in-service property (the in-service part is critical)<\/li>\n<li>Meeting tenants and guests about issues<\/li>\n<li>Responding to maintenance calls (but simply being on-call does not count)<\/li>\n<li>Purchasing supplies (but let\u2019s not dilly dally)<\/li>\n<li>Coordinating tenant move-in and guest check-in, including when they leave<\/li>\n<li>On-site management visits (same warning as safety inspections)<\/li>\n<li>Reviewing local compliance requirements including Airbnb and VRBO<\/li>\n<li>Filing permits for rental operations<\/li>\n<li>Supervising employees such as your children who are on payroll<\/li>\n<li>Communicating with city inspectors<\/li>\n<li>Managing utilities for rental property (negotiating internet service, for example)<\/li>\n<li>Paying HOA dues and managing HOA compliance<\/li>\n<li>Attending HOA meetings if they are specific to operations<\/li>\n<li>Attending zoning or city council hearings for rentals<\/li>\n<li>Preparing property for new tenants or guests (turnover cleaning)<\/li>\n<li>Filing property tax protests\/appeals (which you should do every two years, always)<\/li>\n<li>Meeting with attorneys and tax professionals<\/li>\n<li>Coordinating landscaping or lawn care services, including pest control<\/li>\n<li>Reviewing and signing vendor contracts such as trash or pool service<\/li>\n<li>Tracking and reconciling rent payments<\/li>\n<li>Drafting and reviewing tenant or guest communications<\/li>\n<li>Inspecting property after storms or damages<\/li>\n<li>Preparing documentation for tax return (if directly rental-related)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>As mentioned elsewhere, be careful of how thick your pencil is- in other words, logging 32 hours to replace a toilet or spending 12 hours shopping for towels seems unreasonable. Attending HOA meetings is a mixed bag- if the meeting is specific to operations such as short-term rental compliance, parking lot maintenance or guest rules for grills and fireplaces (for example), then this time counts. General HOA nonsense like budgets and community events probably do not count towards material participation.<\/p>\n<p>Also, keep in mind that time spent performing tasks on short-term rental activities does not count towards the 750 hours for real estate professional status. This is generally because STRs are not rental activities- they are businesses, and to make things worse, they are not real estate businesses. However, time would still otherwise count towards material participation for REPS (recall that there is a 3 part test- 750 hours in real estate, more than 50% of your time spent across all activities including W-2 jobs is spent in real estate, and you materially participate in the rental property activity).<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Things_That_Dont_Count\"><\/span>Things That Don\u2019t Count<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Another list for your groaning pleasure-<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Researching future investment or rental properties<\/li>\n<li>Reading market reports (yawn) or AirDNA (fun)<\/li>\n<li>Browsing Zillow or MLS listings (totally fun and addictive, right?)<\/li>\n<li>Building ROI spreadsheets for new acquisitions<\/li>\n<li>Meeting brokers for acquisition discussions<\/li>\n<li>Reviewing rental property financials for own analysis (but what about for a lender?)<\/li>\n<li>Continuing education courses including reading real estate blogs\/newsletters<\/li>\n<li>Being \u201con call\u201d without actual work performed (need to lift a finger at least)<\/li>\n<li>Renovating property before placed in service (again, this is a big gotcha)<\/li>\n<li>Travel time considered commuting (no home office or rental in your resident city)<\/li>\n<li>Travel with personal errands mixed in (you would never)<\/li>\n<li>Working as employee of real estate firm (&lt;5% owner)<\/li>\n<li>Dreaming or thinking about rental properties<\/li>\n<li>Travel without evidence of being involved in day-to-day managerial operations<\/li>\n<li>Preparing financial summaries for your own portfolio or personal financial statement<\/li>\n<li>Attending real estate investment seminar<\/li>\n<li>Researching tax strategies (but talking to WCG CPAs &amp; Advisors about them, sure!)<\/li>\n<li>Networking events not directly tied to your rental properties<\/li>\n<li>Meals (and drinks) with real estate professionals<\/li>\n<li>General investor club meetings<\/li>\n<li>Meeting with mortgage lenders for future loans<\/li>\n<li>Reviewing potential loan options for acquisitions (not in-service yet)<\/li>\n<li>Preparing hypothetical budgets for \u201cmaybe\u201d deals<\/li>\n<li>Performing due diligence on a property not yet purchased (darn in-service thing again)<\/li>\n<li>Talking with other investors about their rentals<\/li>\n<li>Comparing financing structures theoretically<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Some tasks and efforts that do not count towards material participation might still count towards the 750 hours for real estate professional status. Examples might include building ROI spreadsheets for new acquisitions, meeting with real estate brokers and lenders, and performing due diligence on real estate investments. 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Advisors,<\/strong> a boutique yet progressive tax, accounting and <\/em><em>rental property consultation and real estate CPA firm with over 90 team members and 7 partners headquartered in Colorado serving real estate investors worldwide.<\/em><\/p>\n<div style=\"display: flex; justify-content: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jason-watson-cpa\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-17327 entered lazyloaded\" style=\"height: 35px!important; width: auto!important;\" src=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/linkedin-150x150-1.png.webp\" alt=\"Jason Watson CPA LinkedIn\" \/><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"mailto:jason@wcginc.com\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-17334 entered lazyloaded\" style=\"height: 35px!important; width: auto!important;\" src=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/mail-150x150-1.png.webp\" alt=\"Jason Watson CPA Email\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<style><\/style>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t[\/vc_column][\/vc_row][vc_row][vc_column]\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t<div id=\"wd-69d3e2e584de8\" class=\" wd-rs-69d3e2e584de8 wd-info-box wd-wpb text-left box-icon-align-top box-style- color-scheme- wd-bg-none border-btm-title img-right kb \">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-content\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"info-box-title title wd-font-weight-800 box-title-style-default font-primary wd-fontsize-m\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"I_Just_Got_A_Rental_What_Do_I_Do_2026_Edition\"><\/span>I Just Got A Rental, What Do I Do? 2026 Edition<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-inner reset-last-child\"><p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-100749 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Web-and-Social-GFX-2026_300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"360\" \/>This KB article is an excerpt from our 530+ page book (yeah, thick, there are some picture pages, but no scratch and sniff) which was <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>updated April 5, 2026<\/strong><\/span>, and is available in paperback from <a href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/amazon-rental\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amazon<\/a>, as an eBook for\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/kindle-rental\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kindle<\/a>\u00a0and as a\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/pdf-rental\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">PDF<\/a>\u00a0from ClickBank. 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You can cruise through these KB articles online, click on the fancy buttons below or\u00a0<a href=\"\/business-services\/book\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">visit our webpage<\/a>\u00a0which provides more information.<\/p>\n<table class=\"purchase-table\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"\/amazon-rental\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-6657 aligncenter\" style=\"float: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/amazon-imageresized.png.webp\" alt=\"I Just Got A Rental, What Do I Do? 2025 Edition | Amazon version\" width=\"50\" height=\"50\" \/><\/a><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"\/kindle-rental\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-6658\" style=\"float: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/kindle-imageresized.png.webp\" alt=\"I Just Got A Rental, What Do I Do? 2025 Edition | Kindle Version\" width=\"50\" height=\"50\" \/><\/a><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"\/pdf-rental\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-6659 aligncenter\" style=\"float: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/wcginc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/PDFresized.png.webp\" alt=\"I Just Got A Rental, What Do I Do? 2025 Edition | PDF version\" width=\"50\" height=\"50\" \/><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>$32.95<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>$21.95<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>$18.95<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<style><\/style>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t[\/vc_column][\/vc_row][vc_row][vc_column]\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t<div id=\"wd-68e97e561482c\" class=\" wd-rs-68e97e561482c wd-info-box wd-wpb text-left box-icon-align-top box-style- color-scheme- wd-bg-none border-btm-title img-right kb \">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-content\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"info-box-title title wd-font-weight-800 box-title-style-default font-primary wd-fontsize-m\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Rental_Expert_Pod_the_REP\"><\/span>Rental Expert Pod (the REP)<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"info-box-inner reset-last-child\"><p>WCG's tax team structure is built around Pods \u2014 small, agile groups of tax professionals (4-6 total) who embrace team camaraderie while achieving client intimacy. 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